June 21, 2016
Meeting was called to order at 7:30am by Phil Kitchel. Sam Phillips led the flag salute.
Guests: No names were taken.
Phil mentioned the joint PABA/Chamber meeting on June 28th at the Red Lion Inn from 7:30am-9:00am. (A show of hands indicated between 20-25 people plan to attend. It is not known how many of those had already sent a RSVP.)
Port Commissioner Connie Beauvais said the final decision on the new Director would be made at the Monday, June 27 meeting.
PABA meeting for July 5. Edna Petersen moved and Sam Phillips seconded the motion to cancel the July 5 PABA meeting. Motion carried.
Pier / Fiero Parking. George Bergner said the issue would be on the agenda at the City Council meeting. He said a recent survey showed the need for all the spots and even more. Jeff Bauman from the Peninsula Trails Coalition said they are against the PABA’s stand on the elimination of spots.
Ted Simpson moved and Stan Forsell seconded the motion to accept minutes of June 13 and June 14. Motion carried.
Andrew May moved and Stephanie Noblin seconded to extend the meeting by 15 minutes if needed. Motion carried.
Andrew pointed out the importance of the State Representative position from a business view, and the need for vibrant, competent candidates.
George Vrable, a retired fireman from Port Ludlow, said he changed from a Democrat to Republican because Democrats were too far left. He believes that the US Constitution is a living document and he wants to preserve and defend it. He feels the State is not business-friendly because all it wants to do is tax and spend.
Mike Chapman, retired Customs Agent, thanked PABA for all the years they have hosted candidates like him. He wondered why his opponents do not want open debates, especially before the League of Women Voters. He said he is frustrated by the unemployment situation. He feels part of that could be helped if School Levies only required a 50%, not a 60%, approval rate. School construction could put many back to work. He thinks businesses should be taxed on net profit, not gross income. This would an easier way to pay a living wage.
George Vrable agreed about doing away with B/O tax. (Said he did not want to debate before LWV because they are so hostile and are too far left for his liking.
A show of hands from the audience indicated they would like to have more public debates.
Q & A Period
Dick Pilling asked, “What does ‘fully funded schools’ mean? Aren’t the people already paying for schools?”
Mike Chapman: State used to fund 80% but now only 60%. Need a bipartisam solution that will lead to equal levization.
George Vrable: If state fully funds schools than other agencies will want more money and the state will soon be overreaching its power and thus dictating how to run things. The money is there now.
Mathew Rainwater: “Sales Tax or Income Tax?”
Mike Chapman: They’re a gimmick and a competitive disadvantage to some businesses. Businesses are in essence paying an income tax now, especially small proprietorships making only $50,000 to $60,000. The big businesses making $250,000 to $500,000 are not being fully taxed.
George Vrable: He does not trust Democrats to have an income tax because they would not let it go away. Republicans would not back an income tax. State should look at present programs and then audit and reform instead of spending so much money.
Randy Johnson: “Is an income tax needed? Two states (Connecticut and New Jersey) that did not have it and then added it now have the highest sales tax, income tax and property tax.
George Vrable: He needs to study figures since there are many different answers and he doesn’t know what they are.
Mike Chapman: Let the voters decide. They will find that a lower sales tax helps the little man, as would lower capital gains taxes.
MacGeraghty: Since state budget has gone from $53 billion to $80 billion why is percentage of spending higher than rate of inflation?
Mike Chapman: Not easy to turn around present spending. People can always say “no” to a vote. Too much money is having to come from the small for the benefit of the rich, who of course, do not want to see a change. Without state spending, the Peninsula would not have had funding for the garbage dump, the Discovery Trail, road projects, and all the work at Peninsula College.
He said he would not take any money from Boeing since they have sent too many jobs out of the state. He will not take money from the NRA even though he owns guns and believes in the Second Amendment.
George Vrable: He is a member of the NRA but also would like to see some common sense made about guns. The Democrats are working to take guns away from you, even saying you cannot buy a gun. Republicans are at least saying you should wait 72 hours before buying a gun. He does not trust Obama to talk common sense. Soon what happened in Australia will happen in the United States “when everyone had to turn in their guns”.
Bill Feeley: Why is his business taxed on the total he makes and he is not given a break for all the subs he pays who also pay on the full amount?
George Vrable: B/O is unfair and should do as little with it. Roll it over.
Mike Chapman: Reform tax so it is only on net profit. Take the issue to the voters. As a newcomer he might not be able to write and pass legislation on the subject, but he will sure voice his opinion.
Harry Bell: Carbon Tax? Fuel Tax?
Mike Chapman: Fuel taxes are still going down. A tax initiative is necessary because it is not now revenue neutral.
George Vrable: Carbon tax is not needed if there was tax management reform. Thin trees and put out forest fires when they are small. Forest fires and idling cars are what produce carbon.
Edna Petersen: Why is L & I so high and paperwork so time consuming? What about those who do not pay it?
Mike Chapman: He would work to be up L&I enforcement to catch those who do not follow the rules, do not get permits, and who take money under the table.
George Vrable: Did not comment.
Connie Beauvais: Future of timber?
Mike Chapman: Look into cross laminated timber and all the jobs it would bring to Clallam County. Clallam is a net carbon sequester county.
George Vrable: Not ready to answer that question since he does not have all the details on the question. Logging should be done on land that is set aside for that purpose.
Dan Gase: Minimum wage?
Mike Chapman: Not a good idea on the Peninsula now but reform of the B&O tax would help some businesses be able to pay more in wages.
George Vrable: Did not comment.
Mike Chapman thanked PABA for allowing them to speak. He said he is only a cell phone call away.
George Vrable said he not a politician but just someone who cares about what is going on in Olympia and the State and the impact it has on his children and grandchildren.
Meeting adjourned at 8:45am.